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multi
msx lover
Posts: 67
Postado em: 10 Novembro 2007, 09:46   
i got a OCM from japan and although the manual is not in english, i don't think i was missing a lot on it... the most usefull info in there is a list of the dip switches and a reference to the ngload.com tool to load megarom's in an SCC+ MegaRam (which is emulated in slot 2).
Ivan

msx professional
Posts: 906
Postado em: 10 Novembro 2007, 10:43   
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Apart from that, it's also cool to import yourself and receive some mysterious looking japanese package with an even more coolish looking japanese manual ^_^


And that is also very very true


Not for me, I'm tired of user's manuals in Japanese. ASCII and later MSX Association have ignored completely the overseas MSX scene (yeah, I'm an oversea person for them ). Start to light candles if you want to see a non-Japanese edition of the OCM.
Ivan

msx professional
Posts: 906
Postado em: 10 Novembro 2007, 10:54   
Moreover, I decided long time ago that I would not buy the OCM if it was not being to be distributed outside Japan. And I'm keeping my word.
Latok
msx master
Posts: 1732
Postado em: 10 Novembro 2007, 10:54   
Quote:

i got a OCM from japan and although the manual is not in english, i don't think i was missing a lot on it... the most usefull info in there is a list of the dip switches and a reference to the ngload.com tool to load megarom's in an SCC+ MegaRam (which is emulated in slot 2).

And that dipswitches-information is outdated and incomplete ^_^

I'm surprised quite some people have imported the 1chipMSX themselves already. Shouldn't we start talking about it in a specific forum thread or something? I guess the people who have the device, just stare at it every now and then instead of using it on a regular basis. An active forum thread would motivate the use of it, I think
Rikusu

msx professional
Posts: 955
Postado em: 10 Novembro 2007, 14:50   
Quote:

anyone notice the OCM-related section in the amusement center news mail?



In short, this story is about some Dutch called Ronald (nickname(?)) who was travelling Japan and really wanted a One Chip MSX, but couldn't find one anywhere for sale, so he decided to directly visit D4E to buy one there. And although that's the first time something like that ever happened and they normally don't sell OCM's at their office, they made an exception this time and sold an OCM. And as a bonus, they gave him an MSX Magazine as a souvenir.
djh1697
msx professional
Posts: 551
Postado em: 10 Novembro 2007, 18:18   
Quote:

i got a OCM from japan and although the manual is not in english, i don't think i was missing a lot on it... the most usefull info in there is a list of the dip switches and a reference to the ngload.com tool to load megarom's in an SCC+ MegaRam (which is emulated in slot 2).



I have NGLOAD version 1.34, please can you tell me how i can load in a SCC megaROM, i just get error messages?
djh1697
msx professional
Posts: 551
Postado em: 11 Novembro 2007, 00:25   
problem solved
Maggoo
msx professional
Posts: 589
Postado em: 12 Dezembro 2007, 22:34   
So help me here. If today I want to order an OCM, how can this be done ? Are they still available at all or do you need to search for a used one ?

The D4E site seems to allow to place orders, which makes me beleive that new ones would be available, but it's all in Japanese and it doesn't seem like they'd take international orders...

Odd policy to produce something, yet make it so difficult to get
multi
msx lover
Posts: 67
Postado em: 13 Dezembro 2007, 01:25   
I got my OCM from a friend who picked up the thing on his vacation at the shop of D4E in Tokyo. They still had new ones 1 month ago, and personel in the shop seemed surprised anyone would specificly want an OCM when he pointed at the device.

My guess is you can best get someone to get it for you there and send it via DHL or something. I seen new OCM's being sold on ebay, and also some people on this forum offerd to get one over here for a fair price if there was a demand.
HansO
msx addict
Posts: 375
Postado em: 13 Dezembro 2007, 17:11   
Ronnie Klok imports 1ChipMSX'es, that is how I got mine. Recommended.

This reminds me so much of the times when imports from Japan were the only way to get new MSX items.
And all these imports of the 1ChipMSX will make it more unlikely there will ever be a Bazix version. Most potential customers will have an imported one soon.
Maggoo
msx professional
Posts: 589
Postado em: 13 Dezembro 2007, 17:42   
With all repect to Bazix's effort, this thing has been out for more than a year. I know that the MSX is an obsolete technology anyway so one more year won't make a difference. I also know that importing stuffs from Japan is never easy but come on, the remaining MSX people are die hard fans (who else would still use a computer less powerfull than a $20 media player) and die hard fans don't like to wait Plus I don't really care too much for an English user manual or any euro specs whatchumacallit, we never really saw that since 1988 anyway
Yukio
msx professional
Posts: 824
Postado em: 13 Dezembro 2007, 20:46   
Quote:

With all repect to Bazix's effort, this thing has been out for more than a year. I know that the MSX is an obsolete technology anyway so one more year won't make a difference. I also know that importing stuffs from Japan is never easy but come on, the remaining MSX people are die hard fans (who else would still use a computer less powerfull than a $20 media player) and die hard fans don't like to wait Plus I don't really care too much for an English user manual or any euro specs whatchumacallit, we never really saw that since 1988 anyway



"Sad but true!" ... However, I don't like the "term" obsolete technology!

By the way, not everybody would be pleasured or happy about waiting for one (or two) years for a "brand new sealed" 'obsolete technology' (even if the machine could be very cool with plenty of games) !!!

Tanni
msx addict
Posts: 303
Postado em: 14 Dezembro 2007, 14:47   
FPGA is future's technology, so is USB! The operations performed by the FPGA in the OCM, i.e. Additions, Subtractions, Shifts, Load commands, etc. are timeless and therefore performed in every computing device by some means or others. The architecture implemented in the OCM -- the MSX -- is what we like and what we maybe like to develop. There always will be applications which only need a straightforward kind of architectural base. Why spending more then actually needed for some application?
Yukio
msx professional
Posts: 824
Postado em: 14 Dezembro 2007, 15:49   
Actually, FPGA is past technology.
About USB, a lot of users really believed that it was outdated before release ... For a Universal Serial Bus that was even slower than a regular FireWire implemented into the Digital Video systems (more than 10 years ago!) ...
FireWire

However, the USB 2.0 is just fine ... But it is just a Universal Serial Bus, to replace the old Parallel Connector (Printer, Drive, Robot, computer port that could send 8-bit information in parallel instead of just a series of one bit) or even the slower Serial Connector!



Yukio
msx professional
Posts: 824
Postado em: 14 Dezembro 2007, 15:57   
USB don't even work right on Microsoft own Windows 95 OSR 2 (version from 1997!). You can use what, a Korean GP32 on this thing !? Where are the drivers for digital pictures and disks? Where are the printers Drivers that need a Windows 98 upgrade or a old Parallel cable (sold separated) to really work !?
IF the software houses and computer makers can't make a simple printer to work property, there could be somethings serious wrong with this thing!!!

Maybe you should know that Microsoft wanted Internet Explorer, new FAT and long file names plus USB support on 97! The only later feature was the introduction of dual display on Windows 98 and some "upgrade" for Windows to make the things (partially) work!!! Sure that more than a year after ...


 
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