Lack of respect

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Por SaebaMSX

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06-05-2008, 11:07

Sad, very sad. Well, at least you know who could be the one. I can imagine that maybe it was not "directly" the buyer but a "trustly friend" of the buyer. That shit happens.

It is not good when you feel robbed, so I hope that when you'll be calm down you could reconsiderate your first reaction.

Anyway, my respect for your work.

Por RobertVroemisse

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06-05-2008, 14:20

Hey, at least you've generated some sales of your games through all this. Wink

But It's a real shame this sort of s**t happens.

Por viejo_archivero

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06-05-2008, 17:43

Really sad Crying... you've got all my support, please keep on the good work SLotman, your releases are more than welcome!

Por JohnHassink

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06-05-2008, 21:12

SLotman, as you can see your work is respected and appreciated by many people.
It's just my 2 cents, but I want you to know I feel the same way.

I would like to buy Profanation, but I'm not gonna send money over internet, sorry, I just don't.

Maybe I can transfer the money directly to your account?

johnhassink AT

Por Ivan

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06-05-2008, 23:34

It is a shame that this kind of things still happen! Sad I hope that you will reconsider your decision, SLotman.

Por hbarcellos

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07-05-2008, 00:26

Wow!!! Again this bullshit? It's the 9999th time that this guy says that he'll abandon the MSX scene. Every time someone says something about one of his games that he disagrees, he loses temper and keeps complaining about that.
I think that there’s nothing more annoying than a developer trying to make money with a product designed for such a small market like ours.
IT’S A HOBBY FOR CHRIST SAKE! And there are several new options being released each year for free by several other developers that think in this way, the right way.
Me, and a friend, some years ago released two programs: O2em (several new fixes and features over original Dan Bori’s version) and a frontend called O2emLauncher. It was a huge amount of work to do, and we not even liked Odyssey 2 games. How it was released? Freeware! Not only: Open source!!! Oh, and the hosting? First I hosted at the friendly geocities. Some days after a friendly guy, fan of Odyssey, kindly offered free hosting. As it is open source, last time I saw, another guy was running the project, and the site was still up.
And we never complained about never receiving a cent for it…
And… It’s not my job to judge that, but his games are usually “not good enough” for paying. But again, that’s pointless. It’s just my personal opinion.

Por Sama

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07-05-2008, 01:35

It's a personal choice to make something or not, it's a personal choice to ask money for it and it's a personal choice to buy it or not. The point of view that something is a hobby SO it's wrong to ask money probably stems from the stone age. Isn't it generally known that most times it just -is- a hobby that costs money?? There are little to no hobbies that don't cost any money. One of my hobbies is to sleep late and I have to admit that doesn't involve a penny. But otherwise?

Apart from that, there's a lot more to that hobby than just using and developing; the fun may just be to create something people are willing to buy, which enables you in turn to buy a couple of beers for your effort while other people pick the fruits of it.

In fact, to make your way of reasoning consequent, you should say that 'it's a hobby, it's wrong when money is asked, so: (a) develop your own stuff and (b) use it'. Why the hell would one want to create something only so that others have fun? Is it wrong when it's not only the fact that it's fun to create something, but also that it's fun to earn a little bit of pocketmoney with it?? The fact that MSX is a hobby, doesn't automatically degrade the whole lot of us to some open sandals and woolly socks charity institutions! That's just a matter of personal choice!

I have heard this a lot of times and get annoyed by it time after time. If you don't want to spend money, just don't buy it! Don't go sulking in a corner whining that there are nice products outside but -boohoo- it costs money to purchase it. Welcome to the world, for heavens' sake!

Por thinlizzy

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07-05-2008, 02:20

the word 'wrong' is coming from YOU, Rikusu

hbarcellos is just criticizing the repetitive 'abandon the MSX scene' role play

we are all tired of this soap opera

Por Lemuriel

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07-05-2008, 02:27

be coherent:
if you are really leaving the scene, if you will not deal anymore with msx, just do not accept any more people buying the game. it is all over? erase the games, do not sell the games and leave. or just keep programming, keep selling and don't cry.

Por Vampier

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07-05-2008, 05:00

I agree with slotman to quit the scene, if he programs for a living and his work is stolen then it's hist good right to say 'FU guys I'm quiting'. This is one of the reasons why I never will ask money for the work I will do for the MSX scene. Nor will I ask donations/money for the costs of webhosting/domain registration.

Most people already have ripped the MSX scene off enough with pirated roms etc.

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