MSXdev22 #24 Sacred Valley

MSXdev22 #24 Sacred Valley

by MSXdev Team on 02-10-2022, 11:40
Topic: Challenges
Tags: msxdev22, MSXdev
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The game Sacred Valley is a dark and mysterious platform action game by Visualedu & Bitcaffe.

While the king and queen did not survive the fall, you are only bruised by it. This is your chance to escape this hellish valley. With a shifting day- and night game engine, you are treated with both colorful as monochrome soft scrolling screens. A classic type of platform action, but with several twists and unique features.

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Relevant link: Sacred Valley - MSXdev official
Relevant link: Sacred Valley - play online

Comments (26)

By thegeps

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02-10-2022, 11:53

Oh, I saw a little video footage on twitter. Eager to play this game. Really great entries this year!

By AxelStone

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02-10-2022, 13:43

Just started to play, really great, a very nice adventure!

Small sugestion: How about some immunity after being hit? Sometimes you are hit continuously and lose your life in a moment.

By santiontanon

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02-10-2022, 14:29

Very nice! I like the "flashlight" effect and the multiple-width font technical details!! Also, very nice to see story elements merged in with the gameplay!

By Visualedu

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02-10-2022, 15:04

Hi @axelstone, indeed there is a few frames of invulnerability. May be not enough Sad .I Will review it. Thankyou for playing It!!!!

By Visualedu

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02-10-2022, 15:06

Thankyou @santiontanon!! I Hope you enjoy the Game! Smile

By thegeps

Paragon (1122)

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03-10-2022, 12:02

Played yesterday at File-Hunter. Really good. Don't know if it is a webmsx issue or if it was intended but there was a continuous rhythmic noise, like a drumming or a typewriter. Anyway the game is good and Bitcaffe's music is evocative. I'll play again for sure

By thegeps

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03-10-2022, 19:49

Tried on OpenMSX, no strange noises. Tried again on File-Hunter and there are still the noises. So a webMSX fault? Someone else has noticed this issue?

By santiontanon

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04-10-2022, 16:57

Hmm, strange! I do not hear the noises in webMSX (tried on Google chrome on my old work Macbook air)

By Uninteresting

Champion (338)

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04-10-2022, 18:51

It's great to see a "big" platformer with smooth scrolling and adventure after a while. (Or have I forgotten some? I remember a Malaika game, but that was a one-way scroller.)

I presume this is "big" because the sword is only one spot in that tree, and that's as far as I've got so far...

Also -- a case of maybe not enough invincibility frames -- a bat knocked me up against a wall, held me there and took maybe 4-5 hitpoints off of me.

By thegeps

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05-10-2022, 14:05

Hi Santi, did you try on File-Hunter or directly launchingbthe ROM from webMSX? I haven't tried againg from the last time. I'll tey again tomorrow

By Uninteresting

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05-10-2022, 17:27

Okay, I got stuck in a room between a rat and a jaguar, which made me die and I couldn't get out of the situation fast enough. (I was trying to find out where to climb after having found that ability.) A bit of a buzzkill.

While this game is smaller than I thought, it's still very good. I imagine the day/night cycle might be divisive.

By Uninteresting

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05-10-2022, 22:03

@thegeps I just noticed the noises on webMSX, but not on the first or second time I played it there.

By Visualedu

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06-10-2022, 11:22

Hi, this video is a little guide to start Sacred Valley:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgl8nNdcRVU&t=36s

(A little gameplay with a few comments.)

By santiontanon

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07-10-2022, 02:55

Thanks Visualedu!! I managed to get to the right most part of the map, and I died trying to make my way to the top right, tomorrow another attempt! Smile

By Uninteresting

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07-10-2022, 07:54

I wonder if tfh should at some point start including manual links to MSXdev games on the pages with the embedded emulators. Not all games, but some that need it the most.

I didn't read the manual for this, but I probably should have.

By wyrdwad

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12-10-2022, 20:56

Hey Visualedu,

Excellent game, but I think I've discovered a pretty major bug. If you continue the game via password from the title screen, the controller no longer works! The game MUST be played via keyboard if you enter a password -- you can only use the controller if you start from the beginning.

Is this something you could fix for a new version release? I'm a controller-only gamer, typically, so not being able to use a controller feels like way too harsh a punishment for dying. Wink

Thanks!

By Visualedu

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13-10-2022, 00:40

Hi wyrdwad, thank you for let me know. Yes, I will fix It for the next release as soon as posible.Smile
And many thanks for playing SacredValley!!!

By wyrdwad

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13-10-2022, 02:15

Visualedu wrote:

Hi wyrdwad, thank you for let me know. Yes, I will fix It for the next release as soon as posible.Smile
And many thanks for playing SacredValley!!!

Perfect, thanks! Looking forward to continuing the adventure! Wink

By journey

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14-10-2022, 10:22

Hi!,

yesterday i've reached the BAD ending...

So, there are GOOD and BAD endings?

By Visualedu

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14-10-2022, 11:21

Congratulations @journey!!
Yes, there is a GOOD ending.

When the king dies, you, his brother, become the king.
But you are a betrayed king, without an army. Look for faithful companions to help you, if they have wings better Wink
When the small map doesn't show anything but your location , it will be time to leave the valley.

I hope you enjoy the game!
Thanks for playing it!!!

By Uninteresting

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14-10-2022, 19:31

This game keeps on revealing itself ever more impressive, then.

By wyrdwad

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15-10-2022, 19:40

Hey! Wanted to post an update regarding my bug report. The controller issue (where the game only responds to keyboard presses, not controller buttons) ONLY occurs if you enter a password from the title screen after first powering on the MSX. If you die and continue by pressing Enter, the controller works fine; similarly, if you die and enter a password after dying, the controller works fine. So the bug is a lot more minor than I thought, and I was just able to complete the game -- I got every item, found every dragon spirit, and escaped to lead my dragon army! Wink Super awesome game, and the ability to ride dragons is a real game-changer -- it was a fun enough game before that, but as soon as that ability got unlocked, the game suddenly went to the next level of badass! Really, really enjoyable experience overall -- excellently done!

I wanted to report a couple other things too, though, if I may -- super minor stuff this time, but I feel it bears mentioning. Hope you don't take this as a criticism of your work, as I genuinely loved this game!

When you enter a cave that DOESN'T have an item in it, the game randomly chooses from one of several possible cave layouts. One of these has a stone staircase on the left side, leading to a big drop on the right side into a pit with a tree growing in it. If, for some reason, you decide to go over there (like I stupidly did once, despite there being literally no items or enemies in the room whatsoever and thus no reason to do anything but turn around and exit!) and you fall into the pit, you have two possible ways out: you can climb the tree (if you've found the item that lets you climb), or you can jump out through the stone steps on the left (if you've found the high-jump item).

If, however, you decide to climb the stone steps and drop into the pit early in the game, BEFORE you've found either of these items... yeah, that's a soft-lock. You have no way to either kill yourself or escape the room -- all you can do is reset.

If you update the game, I'd recommend adjusting this room layout so that can't happen, just in case somebody else is as much of an idiot as I was. Wink

Also, the fact that empty caves load a random room every time you enter them... is a little strange to me. I mean, I know it's a sacred valley, and therefore the layouts of caves can change due to magic or some such thing, but when you can exit and re-enter a cave over and over again, and have it be totally different inside every time you do so, it kind of breaks immersion a bit IMHO. I think if there's a way to, say, maybe pick the room layout based on the overall X and Y map position of the cave entrance, therefore making it sufficiently "random" but also ensuring it's the same every time you enter that particular cave, that would be a nice subtle improvement to the game's overall atmosphere. That's really just a tiny tweak suggestion, though, and certainly not anything major by any means!

Finally, the true ending text contains the line, "The people proclaim you as its true king." The word "its" there COULD be referring to the sacred valley, which was mentioned in the previous sentence, but it feels like it would be more natural to say, "The people proclaim you as their true king." Again, just a minor little tweak suggestion.

Thanks for taking the time to make this awesome game, and I hope my wall of text here isn't too much! Heheh.

By Visualedu

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16-10-2022, 00:55

Hi wyrdwad, thank you very much for your review.

I'm very happy to see that people enjoy it.

I still haven't been able to fix the joystick key entry problem. But I plan to fix it for the next release.

What you say about random caves makes a lot of sense. initially I imagined a much more magical valley. But the game has ended up being much more realistic. So, yes, that randomness doesn't make sense. I have noted it!, I will fix it too Smile

About 'RESET CAVE', I think it's the biggest bug (found for now Smile ). Surely there are people who have tried the game and, getting stuck, have stopped trying it. I will fix it for the next release.

My idea was that, after obtaining the ability to ride dragons, the player would fight another larger enemy or the traitors. But I ran out of space on the 64K rom Sad

Thank you for the end-game text suggestion. I will change it Smile

By journey

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18-10-2022, 10:28

Hi!,

I think i'm stuck ..
I have recovered all the objects and, I believe, all the white dragons, but if I go up to the left and touch the white spirit, I always have the bad ending... I think there is still at least one white dragon in the second map, but I can't find the cave with the passage in the other map anymore ... Crying

By Visualedu

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19-10-2022, 20:46

Hi Journey, I would like to see where (and why) are you stuck. Could you send me the last password to stupidmartians@gmail.com?

By journey

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19-10-2022, 22:08

Mail sent! Smile