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DalSoRi reserve list

by Retrofan on 05-09-2014, 21:48
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A while back MRC forum regular Retrofan started an inquiry for interest in the DalSoRi, a Korean OPL4 board in a small cartridge, with 1MB RAM and fully compatible with the Moonsound. Enough interest was raised, and 20 people ordered a DalSoRi OPL4 board from JunSoft, with Retrofan acting as distributor. This batch has now been sold out.

Jun has informed Retrofan that he can make another batch when at least 5 20 people are interested. Already 5 persons expressed their interest, so only 15 people to go. Price will be EUR 140,- including custom duties and Overrich cartridge (transparent or black). Retail price is a little bit higher as the OPL4 chips are hard to get nowadays. Shipping costs are not included; they will be 10 euro for shipping in the Netherlands, 15 euro for Europe and 25 euro for other countries.

When interested, send Retrofan an email through his MRC profile or sign up through the forum topic.

Update: contrary to the earlier reported amount of 5, at least 20 reservations need to be made before production starts.

Relevant link: DalSoRi OPL4 status page

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By edoz

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05-09-2014, 21:53

I'm always surprised by the amount of different hardware that's available now days Wink

By Retrofan

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06-09-2014, 22:24

@edoz: me too. MSX is still alive although some people said it was dead years ago. But they are wrong Tongue

By anonymous

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07-09-2014, 01:50

edoz wrote:

I'm always surprised by the amount of different hardware that's available now days Wink

Me too but even more surprised about its quality!! 100% professional.

By Retrofan

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08-09-2014, 07:51

My mistake, 20 people must be interested in order to achieve a 2nd batch. Otherwise it will be too expensive. 5 people interested by now.

By FiXato

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08-09-2014, 23:53

Thanks @Retrofan for letting us know. I've updated the newspost accordingly.

By Retrofan

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09-09-2014, 18:40

Thanks FiXato!

6 people interested by now for second batch...

By meits

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10-09-2014, 20:09

Good to see how the gaps other groups/people leave behind are getting filled with a good kind of passion...

By meits

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10-09-2014, 20:11

By the way... Sign me up as well... I'm curious about its better sound quality Smile

By Retrofan

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10-09-2014, 22:54

@Meits: great! I will put you on the list! Any chance to convince Wolf or other musicians as well to buy?
8 people interested right now for 2nd batch...

By meits

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11-09-2014, 07:00

Can't speak for Wolf_ but ehr, he won't Wink

By Retrofan

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14-09-2014, 10:09

10 people interested by now...
@Valkyr: please sent me your mailaddress...

It's also possible to do a batch for 10 units, but then the price will be 10 Euro higher each unit.
Let's wait and see if we can get 10 more people interested. Reservation will close October 15.
Could be a nice Christmas "gift" this year Cool

By yzi

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14-09-2014, 11:21

Thinking about it. After this batch, how many MSX OPL4 cartridges are there in the world, total
- MoonSound : 100-200? More?
- DalSoRi : 50-100?
- OPL4 ShockWave : 50-100?
- Wozblaster : 20?

Totalling something like 300-500, all in all?

By Retrofan

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14-09-2014, 11:17

My favourite song atm: Fading Away (17:40) from "The Rhythm" music disk. Does someone know who made this music disk?

By FiXato

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14-09-2014, 12:31

heh, that's some old school House music right there Retrofan Smile

Also, someone should do a nice comparison review in with video/audio recordings of all the specs, features and audio quality of all available opl4 extensions.

By yzi

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14-09-2014, 12:59

I'll do the comparison review, just send me: Wozblaster, OPL4 Shockwave and DalSoRi. Wink

Maybe it would be possible to arrange a distributed test, as long as the test setup can be standardized. I have a Zoom H4n recorder / USB audio interface, which is quite common. It has all digitally controlled settings like input gains etc. and I think the quality of the inputs, converters etc. should be quite consistent between different units. Anyone else here have an H4n?

By meits

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14-09-2014, 12:56

That whole disk is made by Edwin van der Heide aka Impuls Corporation... He was the only guy at MGF who was willing and able to create stuff in the era after Jan van Valburg left.
In the later years he also coded for us after our coder left the scene in 1996.

By yzi

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14-09-2014, 14:22

If it helps raise interest in OPL4 cartridges, I've put my MoonSound player project on Sourceforge
https://sourceforge.net/projects/sootsound/
It's very much pre-alpha, but maybe someone can have fun with the source codes.
There's a precompiled .dsk in the Files section, ready to be run on an MSX or an emulator. It won't work in R800 mode yet.

By Manuel

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14-09-2014, 14:24

Retrofan: where did you get that disk?

By Retrofan

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14-09-2014, 14:44

@Manuel: I don't have that disk, but saw it on Youtube...

By anonymous

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15-09-2014, 18:22

Good opportunity to promote the Moonsound software (current or future) if more people own this cartridge and compatible ones.

By marcoo

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17-09-2014, 16:16

Yeah where is that disk never seen or Hear it before

By Yodd

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17-09-2014, 17:13

I wouldn't mind a link to specific, recommended Moonsound compatible music disks.

By msd

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17-09-2014, 19:00

http://members.chello.nl/m.delorme/WOLFDEMO.LZH

By ToriHino

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17-09-2014, 19:55

And you can ofcourse also use it to play SID songs Cool :

http://www.msx.org/downloads/robosid

By Retrofan

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19-09-2014, 19:30

More people interested in the 2nd batch of DalSoRi? Currently 10 people have pre-ordered, so still 10 available (total of 20 units). Take your chance to get this cool Konami-case sized OPL4 cartridge! Probably this will be the last batch produced for Europe due to the OPL4 chips (difficult to find).

By Retrofan

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19-09-2014, 19:36

Maybe MRC could upload all public domain OPL4 music disks / demo's?

By Manuel

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19-09-2014, 23:38

Maybe you (the MRC users!) could upload them to MRC? (MRC is not a person...)

By Retrofan

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20-09-2014, 12:20

@Manuel: that's what I meant, but I don't know their names... Smile
Maybe you can upload as well, then I also search for them...

By Manuel

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20-09-2014, 20:55

Ah, then I misread it, sorry Smile

By Retrofan

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23-09-2014, 15:49

Slowly going, but 11 people interested for second batch, 9 to go.
Last chance to get one, after this batch there will not come another...

By Retrofan

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28-09-2014, 16:32

Deadline for reservation will be October 15th.

By meits

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28-09-2014, 17:52

And what if you don't reach 20?

By Retrofan

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28-09-2014, 18:41

@Meits: no worries, then you still can have it, but the price will be somewhat higher (about 10-15 euro each unit) Anyway, it will be a nice Christmas present for you and the others! Cool

By giangiacomo.zaffini

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29-09-2014, 11:41

If I have my own DalSoRi cartridge I'll try for sure

BouKiChi MoonDriver

I will try to port it out of MSX-DOS in order to run it on BIOS/BASIC environment or building it as a ROM cartridge.

It should be an interesting job, isn't it? B-)

By Retrofan

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29-09-2014, 18:40

Yes, this is indeed a nice MML song showing the capabilities of the OPL4...

By Retrofan

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30-09-2014, 20:11

14 DalSoRi boards reserved right now Wink 6 to go!

By Retrofan

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02-10-2014, 15:47

yzi wrote:

Thinking about it. After this batch, how many MSX OPL4 cartridges are there in the world, total
- MoonSound : 100-200? More?
- DalSoRi : 50-100?
- OPL4 ShockWave : 50-100?
- Wozblaster : 20?

Totalling something like 300-500, all in all?

I asked Jun about DalSoRi:
About 40~45 DalSoRis were sold and probably about 20 more DalSoRis will be produced in the 2nd batch, so around 60...

By yzi

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02-10-2014, 16:41

Ok, I think the total number of units in the world might be close to 300, at most. So it's roughly as common as a Ferrari Enzo... According to Wikipedia, 400 Ferrari Enzos have been produced.

By Retrofan

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03-10-2014, 19:30

16 reservations, 4 to go
@yzi: don't you want a DalSoRi? Wink

By Retrofan

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04-10-2014, 13:19

17 reservations, only 3 available... Don't miss your chance to get one!

By Retrofan

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05-10-2014, 18:35

18 reserved, only 2 available...

By Retrofan

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06-10-2014, 07:43

only 1 available!!! hurry up!! Wink

By meits

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06-10-2014, 17:37

Ah, starting to look forward to replace my Moonsound with it Smile

By Retrofan

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06-10-2014, 18:00

All DalSoRi's for second batch reserved! Reservation time closed.
Check your mail for payment instructions. Smile

By giangiacomo.zaffini

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06-10-2014, 19:46

Wow! What a dramatic rush!
P.S. first to pay I guess! Cool

By meits

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06-10-2014, 20:10

Great initiative...

By Retrofan

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08-10-2014, 21:42

5 DalSoRi's paid by now...

By Retrofan

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10-10-2014, 19:14

8 DalSoRi's are paid right now. Who's next? Wink

By mesiasmsx

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10-10-2014, 20:09

+ 10

By Retrofan

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13-10-2014, 07:59

10 people paid

By Retrofan

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16-10-2014, 10:30

Meits wrote:

That whole disk is made by Edwin van der Heide aka Impuls Corporation... He was the only guy at MGF who was willing and able to create stuff in the era after Jan van Valburg left.
In the later years he also coded for us after our coder left the scene in 1996.

Hey Meits, is this disk public domain? Maybe you could ask him if you may put it on your website and over here at MRC? We want all OPL4 disks! Cool

By yzi

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16-10-2014, 18:57

Here's a new "music disk" with one MoonSound song, an OPL4+YRW-801 version of the short tune in the Aekrus intro from 1997.
http://www.kameli.net/~yzi/aekrus_moonsound_dsk.zip

By anonymous

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16-10-2014, 19:55

Retrofan wrote:

We want all OPL4 disks! Cool

Really? I could make a selection from my unreleased stuff... it's quite a lot. But I'm not really in the mood to make a menu etc.

By Manuel

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16-10-2014, 20:30

You could just add a standard generic Moonsound replayer, maybe? (From SRM?)

By JohnHassink

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17-10-2014, 14:46

Maybe. Also, going to ask mister Cnossen if he is okay with publishing his Moonsound music files.

By Retrofan

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19-10-2014, 10:43

@JohnHassink: that would be cool!
Update: 16 DalSoRi's are paid right now.

By meits

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19-10-2014, 11:38

John, I got some, not enough, tunes lying around... I'd like to throw them on the same stack as yours...

By Retrofan

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19-10-2014, 14:31

Hi, there was a cancellation, so there is still 1 left, hurry, take your chance!

By Grauw

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31-10-2014, 18:24

If you still want one of these beautiful, compact and great-sounding MoonSound cartridges, Made In Korea, please let Retrofan or me know! There is still 1 left.

(I helped Retrofan with the last one so he could get the order out, but since I already have one I do not need another Smile.)

By Retrofan

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31-10-2014, 18:57

Thanks Grauw, much appreciated!

By anonymous

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01-11-2014, 11:34

Meits wrote:

John, I got some, not enough, tunes lying around... I'd like to throw them on the same stack as yours...

It's happening as we speak... Some of the old school 90's muzak guys from the Dutch "demos for Tilburg and Zandvoort fairs scene" are gathering to release their OPL4 music... Jorito, John Hassink and I are already listed in the credits... At least three other guys are to be confirmed...
The replayer is already working and does have a trip to memory lane look...

This beast with at least 34 quality OPL4 tracks *IS* going to be released... And it might as well be very soon... We hope to let people who bought this new hardware enjoy it to the fullest...

Edit: MOA is confirmed as well...

By Retrofan

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31-10-2014, 21:23

@Meits: cool!
The DalSoRi's are on their way to Europe! Cool
Thanks Jun! Wink

By meits

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02-11-2014, 03:18

Right on time...
I think something blew up my Moonsound just now Tongue
I did load a wavekit when I hit paused, gave one big garbling noise afterwards and went silent...

By Grauw

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02-11-2014, 20:27

Ouch Sad.

By Retrofan

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05-11-2014, 18:41

@Meits: yes, ouch, too bad, hope it will work again soon... but... to cheer you up, today I received a package from Korea Wink Will try to send some of them this Saturday already Smile Where can we download that music disk? Wink

By giangiacomo.zaffini

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05-11-2014, 18:43

Is it already X-mas? Smile

By meits

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06-11-2014, 19:02

Retrofan: I'm working on it together with six other musicians who already were famous in the 90s... Only the replayer is done. The rest, the gfx and the selection of the music isn't done yet...
Just one tiny little newsflash: One disk is not enough and a disk is released only when the replayer's 34 slots are totally filled...
Release will most probably not be before the end of the year... Nijmegen is a goal, but only when completed... It will be downloadable from MRC Wink

By Grauw

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06-11-2014, 19:13

Grauw wrote:

If you still want one of these beautiful, compact and great-sounding MoonSound cartridges, Made In Korea, please let Retrofan or me know! There is still 1 left.

Still available.

By Retrofan

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08-11-2014, 19:05

Hi guys, today 11 DalSoRi's where shipped to their new owners Smile Shipment was done to Spain, Australia, Japan and Norway! The other countries including The Netherlands will follow in the next week when I have time again...

By Durany

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09-11-2014, 13:32

Huy, Very nice to hear that Retrofan!

Thanks in advance

By Retrofan

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11-11-2014, 19:03

The remaining DalSoRi's are packed and the last ones will be shipped this Thursday. Be careful with unpacking as it is very rare hardware Wink

By Retrofan

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13-11-2014, 17:07

All DalSoRi's are shipped right now and everyone has received their tracking number in the mailbox.
Thanks for the business all of you and have fun with it! Let's make some noise!!!! Smile

By meits

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13-11-2014, 18:18

Working on that Wink

By Retrofan

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13-11-2014, 18:33

Much appreciated Meits!

By pceworld

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20-11-2014, 12:45

I wan't to buy one ...... is too late?

By Grauw

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20-11-2014, 19:51

The extra DalSoRi I have is reserved until January 24, 2015… Sorry Smile.

By anonymous

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25-02-2015, 18:24

JohnHassink wrote:

Maybe. Also, going to ask mister Cnossen if he is okay with publishing his Moonsound music files.

Meits wrote:
Meits wrote:

John, I got some, not enough, tunes lying around... I'd like to throw them on the same stack as yours...

It's happening as we speak... Some of the old school 90's muzak guys from the Dutch "demos for Tilburg and Zandvoort fairs scene" are gathering to release their OPL4 music... Jorito, John Hassink and I are already listed in the credits... At least three other guys are to be confirmed...
The replayer is already working and does have a trip to memory lane look...

This beast with at least 34 quality OPL4 tracks *IS* going to be released... And it might as well be very soon... We hope to let people who bought this new hardware enjoy it to the fullest...

Edit: MOA is confirmed as well...

Promo of Dutch Moonsound Veterans

Dutch Moonsound Veterans is a one time collective of most of the guys who brought you scene music in the blooming 90s MSX demo, game and music disk years.

The guys responsible for the music (including the handles and teams they were known by):

  • Jan-Lieuwe Koopmans a.k.a. Master of Audio (Emphasys)
  • John Hassink a.k.a. Demonseed (Sargon, Umax and lots more as freelancer)
  • Jelle Jelsma a.k.a. Meits, Tweety, Joan (MSX-Club Friesland-Noord, Near Dark, MSX Gebruikersgroep Friesland)
  • Ruud van de Moosdijk a.k.a. Mr. Rudy, Zodiac (Zodiac)
  • Robert Vroemisse a.k.a. Roopblock, Yum (Sargon, Team Bomba)
  • Jorrith Schaap a.k.a. Soundwave, Jorito (Future Disk, Stuff, Hegega, Flying Bytes)
  • Tristan Zondag a.k.a. Omega (Impact, Dreamscape, Techno Crew)
  • Hans Cnossen a.k.a. Kid Cnozz (Fuzzy Logic, Sunrise, Team Element, Umax)
  • Bart Roijmans a.k.a. Low Profile (Compjoetania, NOP)
  • Danilo Danisi a.k.a. Dandan (Instrument of Darkness, Abyss)

Graphics: Robert Vroemisse
Code: Meits, Master of Audio

  • Three 720kB disks with 34 tracks each compatible with a standard 128kB sampleram Moonsound
  • One rar with loose files (and a HD image) with 34 tracks with big wavekits, dedicated wavekits and what didn't fit any of the first three disks

4x34 tracks coming your way very soon... We're finalizing the production :)

By Grauw

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25-02-2015, 18:57

Waiting in anticipation... Smile

By valkyre

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25-02-2015, 22:29

My dalsori has been waiting for this, so have i!

By Yodd

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03-03-2015, 04:38

Looking forward to this!