Pitpan quits MSX Development; goodbye projects and sources released

Ascended (15184)

02-03-2014, 22:51

Wow, what is there to say... thank you for everything you did for the MSX Community, Robsy. I hope you keep dropping by at msx.org every now and then and perhaps, just perhaps, we can tempt you to create something for MSX again.... one day.

Respect for sharing your work-in-progress projects and sources. Head up high, eh? :/

By cax

Prophet (3736)

03-03-2014, 04:06

pitpan, thank you man for hard work and fun!

By ro

Scribe (4561)

03-03-2014, 09:26

Pitpan, keep your head up. Thank you for the MSXdev, it was the best thing MSX had the last decennia.
props.

ps. why ye quit?

By The_Engineer

Master (177)

03-03-2014, 10:38

Thanks for bringing back the focus to MSX development.

By edoz

Prophet (2418)

03-03-2014, 11:02

This bundle of games is cool! .. maybe nice to port to symbos

By Maggoo

Paragon (1214)

03-03-2014, 15:22

Another big loss for the community after the closure of http://z80st-software.blogspot.com/

Thanks for sharing your work with us and your role in MSXDEV. I hope the retirement will only be temporary :-)

By anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

03-03-2014, 21:24

eh? z80st software hasn't closed and is still alive.
You can find SapphiRe daily on #msxdev @ rizon. Altho he's very busy lately, his MSX developments are ongoing.

By Maggoo

Paragon (1214)

03-03-2014, 21:56

Very good to hear he is still active. I guess I got confused by the following posts:
http://www.msxblog.es/z80st-software-echa-el-cierre-definitivo/

And the message on z80st's pages:

http://z80st-software.blogspot.com/p/utilidades-utils.html

By Huey

Prophet (2681)

03-03-2014, 22:02

@guyveR800: Did you speak to Fernando?

I did a few days ago. Although he hasn't completely left the MSX scene he did mention he halted all projects until furter notice.

By anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

03-03-2014, 23:02

Yep, talked with him this morning...

By Timmy

Master (177)

03-03-2014, 23:48

I've read the announcement on Karoshi a couple of weeks ago, but I only understood half of it (due to google translate), so I'm not too sure why he stopped.

It's a loss for the MSX community if he leaves, from the very few posts we've had it seems to be a very cool person.

By snout

Ascended (15184)

04-03-2014, 01:11

Was actually planning a newspost on this, but I'll put it on hold until we know more. SapphiRe's most recent modification to this wiki seems pretty clear though. All upcoming products canceled, no activity expected in the near future. Let's call it a well deserved break, then? :/

By anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

04-03-2014, 01:29

Labels and drama.. Great stuff

By nanochess

Master (222)

04-03-2014, 05:11

These are pretty sad news

Thanks Eduardo for starting the MSXdev, it's a great contest and it decided me to start programming the MSX.

By anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

04-03-2014, 15:38

It's just a matter of feeling. Need to know all is off to find energy to come back. Hope I could find it.

And yes, I'm very busy and in the near future I'll be busier, because we expect a second children next August

By Konamito

Paragon (1037)

05-03-2014, 14:13

SapphiRe wrote:

It's just a matter of feeling. Need to know all is off to find energy to come back. Hope I could find it.

I've felt like that sometimes... But hopefully I came back with batteries full charged.

SapphiRe wrote:

And yes, I'm very busy and in the near future I'll be busier, because we expect a second children next August

Yeah!

By andrear1979

Expert (97)

07-03-2014, 00:24

PitPan, a big thank you here from Italy for all your artwork,
and for the concept and atmosphere of MSXDev!

Sometimes I think that many will retire from MSX development
for 10/20/30/40 years in order to live their mature age, but will
be back at MSXDev after retirement, with great experience and
spare time to spend.

I hope so; can't imagine the wonders they (we?) could code

( poll question on it? )

By viejo_archivero

Paragon (1395)

07-03-2014, 14:05

There goes my partner in crime and first asm teacher: a big loss for the MSX community , both pitpan and SapphiRe. I wish you the best with your lives! Anyway the power of MSX is strong, so I also wish to see your comeback soon! ;-)

By MäSäXi

Paragon (1884)

09-03-2014, 11:50

I liked the smoothly moving snake demo, where snake can be rotated freely, instead of four directions as usually.

I hope all versions of waver are still available somewhere, including the one which showed moving colour stripes during loading. Did robsy ever made the version where user could choose those colours?

By NYYRIKKI

Enlighted (5898)

11-03-2014, 17:25

By anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

13-03-2014, 12:47

So who wants to wager a beer on robsy returning eventually?

By Grauw

Ascended (10303)

13-03-2014, 16:41

Let’s hope so.

Will someone take over the organisation of the msxdev competition? I think it has always been a big boost to the MSX development community and as someone on the sidelines I was always amazed at how much entries were made. It would be a shame if it would stop.

By anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

13-03-2014, 20:39

It hadn't been organized by Robsy in many years, so...
In your absence it did stop, so we started #msxdev Compo but unfortunately almost all the spanish developers are avoiding it for some reason, even with the likes of viejo_archivero promoting it. Within a few weeks MSXdev'xx was restarted by popular demand, but instead of simply joining #msxdev Compo, people are again lobbying for relaxed MSXdev'xx rules... *sigh*

By mars2000you

Enlighted (6097)

13-03-2014, 21:27

Quote:

Within a few weeks MSXdev'xx was restarted by popular demand

Not a few weeks, but 2 days :

10/03/12 : end of the formule with a jury composed with 3 judges http://msxdev.msxblue.com/?p=1521
11/03/12 : MSXdev'12 organised by Karoshi boards is announced http://msxdev.msxblue.com/?p=1535
12/03/12 : MSXdev'12 launching http://msxdev.msxblue.com/?p=1545

Quote:

people are again lobbying for relaxed MSXdev'xx rules...

You should maybe think that many people dislike some of the #msxdev Compo rules.

By anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

14-03-2014, 01:09

lies

By mars2000you

Enlighted (6097)

14-03-2014, 17:14

GuyveR800 wrote:

lies

That's the only word that you can say when are placed before your own lies and/or contradictions. At least, BiFi has never used lies or insults against me. For this reason, I will consider pseudoMSX as the result of a great work made only by BiFi. You don't deserve any kind of credits as long as you are spreading lies about MSXdev'.

By anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

14-03-2014, 18:06

@mars2000you:
You are trying to hide the fact that you communicated the end of the MSXdev' competition a long time before the deadline. It wasn't until this fact became clear that #msxdev Compo was started, and then LATER a new organizer revived the MSXdev'12 compo.

You are also trying to hide that you then HIJACKED the msxdev.msxblue.com domain name and started to use it for different purposes, without permission from the MSXdev' team. People still hate you for this.

You are constantly trying to spread FUD about the #msxdev Compo, even though the MSXdev' organisation encourages people to join it. You are also damaging it in other ways, such as IGNORING ON PURPOSE a lot of the entries on your hijacked site because "they are not games".

#msxdev Compo and MSXdev' are friends. You are no friend to either.

By mars2000you

Enlighted (6097)

14-03-2014, 18:38

GuyveR800 wrote:

@mars2000you:
You are trying to hide the fact that you communicated the end of the MSXdev' competition a long time before the deadline. It wasn't until this fact became clear that #msxdev Compo was started, and then LATER a new organizer revived the MSXdev'12 compo.

That's not correct. At some moment in 2011, my Dutch partner in the MSXdev' team has me informed that he should stop his participation at the end of MSXdev'11 (deadline 31/01/12). I've have then contacted someone to replace him for the next editions, I had an agreement, but at the moment that I wanted to prepare the MSXdev'12 launching, and that's in March 2012, it seemed that it was impossible to work with this person. That's why I've decided to stop my activity as organizer and 2 days later, the Karoshi Boards have decided to organize MSXdev'12.

Quote:

You are also trying to hide that you then HIJACKED the msxdev.msxblue.com domain name and started to use it for different purposes, without permission from the MSXdev' team. People still hate you for this.

That's also incorrect; it's an agreement between the Karoshi Boards and myself. I've precised at that moment (in 2012) that the site will continue as as archive site for MSXdev' and as news site for other game contests. No-one in the Spanish community has protested against that.

Quote:

You are constantly trying to spread FUD about the #msxdev Compo, even though the MSXdev' organisation encourages people to join it. You are also damaging it in other ways, such as IGNORING ON PURPOSE a lot of the entries on your hijacked site because "they are not games".

I will not explain why a site about new games (since the beginning of the MSXdev' team, but also in the previous version made by Pitpan) is not the best place to include demos or tools. They don't have been ignored, as you can find LINKS to extended reviews of these demos to my main site (but you don't like reviews probably !). For the rest, you are unable to accept any critic about #msxdev Compo organization, it's directly viewed as FUD, it's your problem !

By anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

14-03-2014, 18:54

lies

eg. I know for a fact that MSXdev' organisers are opposing your use of the domainname, but they don't want to get into a fight with you. Your displayed behaviour would make anyone who treats MSX as a hobby agree with their assessment.

space !

By mars2000you

Enlighted (6097)

14-03-2014, 19:14

I'm owner of the domain name (msxblue.com) and msxdev.msxblue.com is hosted as sub-domain. If what you say is correct, then I could change msxdev.msxblue.com into for example msxgames.msxblue.com, but there's a condition : I need a private request from Viejo_Archivero, I need indeed a proof that you are not inventing something.

By anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

15-03-2014, 01:09

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmFXEcI_AA4

Just sayin :-)

By viejo_archivero

Paragon (1395)

18-03-2014, 19:28

As I've been mentioned, there I go:
1. MSXdev organization loves #msxdev compo, and encourages officialy that every developer who's not confortable with MSXdev rules join #msxdev compo instead.
2. Afaik #msxdev compo loves MSXdev contests too: we have different approaches, but the same goal of boosting MSX productions.
3. Benoit, I already told you in private about the constant and fast newsfl00ding about the MSXdev in your site and, although we agree and appreciate that you host and archive past games (as ex-organizer), the official source of MSXdev information is, since some years, the MSXdev Community. Enough said, as we discussed it in private, and everything's fine since then (at least, I am happy with how things are going right now).
4. Please, back on topic. Pitpan has left MSX development (but I hope he comes back soon ;D), and we should try to keep the MSX spirit, not spoil it!

By mars2000you

Enlighted (6097)

18-03-2014, 19:55

Thanks, Viejo_Archivero, for your intervention in this thread, I hope it helps to clarify some things.

Of course, like you, I'm hoping that Pitpan will find again in the future the way (and the time) to the MSX development !

By djh1697

Paragon (1614)

19-03-2014, 11:58

Nice to meet you when you where in the UK Mr Pitpan, i quit MSX some time ago, i admit i miss it!!!!

By anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

19-03-2014, 15:28

mars2000you: Way to take advantage of people's aversion to conflict.

By JohnHassink

Ambassador (5595)

19-03-2014, 15:46

Please keep the discussion civil. After all the fun and excitement of the previous days, we're kind of fed up with policing for the time being.

By snout

Ascended (15184)

19-03-2014, 15:46

The way I see it many people treat you with kid gloves for just exactly that, GuyveR800. I offer you a choice: stick around on msx.org and be polite and helpful or crawl back into your cave where you can insult and cause all the conflict you want.

Pitpan quits MSX Development; goodbye projects and sources released

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