msx non konami games with konami level "quality"

Enlighted (4156)

17-04-2021, 19:02

Hi, all, Are there good examples of non-konami games with a good level of quality (like konami did), manufactured by spanish sw houses like dinamic etc. (Excluding compile, or other japanese sw makers)?

In most of the times they ported zx spectrum games to msx with performances problems due to different video hw.

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Van Randam

Paragon (1431)

17-04-2021, 21:01

Relevo, Karoshi and some opera games. Imanok, Nerlaska, etc. Or do you mean back in the day.

Van PingPong

Enlighted (4156)

17-04-2021, 21:20

Randam wrote:

Relevo, Karoshi and some opera games. Imanok, Nerlaska, etc. Or do you mean back in the day.

yes, i was mean back in '80 era. Today there are some good examples of games that are better than those in '80.

My Idea is there was no so much efforts and some similarity with spectrum video gfx performances lead to low quality games, so i try to recall some exceptions.

Van geijoenr

Champion (392)

17-04-2021, 22:57

"Livingstone supongo" from Opera I think is a good example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PckbhzSEyOY&ab_channel=thorinin

maybe "Cosa nostra" as well, in terms of using MSX graphics:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x2b_e-21Nc&ab_channel=Remak...

Van geijoenr

Champion (392)

17-04-2021, 22:58

I think there are actually plenty, I remember I used to play some unknown games that were pretty good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is0bSaKblMs&ab_channel=MarnoBal

Van Manuel

Ascended (19683)

17-04-2021, 23:47

But these games that Marno Bal is playing are not Spanish, right?

Van santiontanon

Paragon (1832)

18-04-2021, 07:19

A common example of a MSX-exclusive by a spanish company is "Temptations" although perhaps the jumping noise is a bit too much hehe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srQ3FO_0h6E

Van Ivan

Ascended (9372)

18-04-2021, 09:33

I don't know if this can be considered a quality game but at least it was not a ZX Spectrum port:

Jai Alai by Opera Soft (MSX)

Interestingly it was released in 1991, shortly before all Spanish (and European) companies making software for 8bit home computers went bankrupt and, at a time, when 99,9999% of commercial MSX games made in Spain were Spectrum ports. If it were a Spectrum conversion you would expect something like this running at about 25% slower speed:

Jai Alai by Opera Soft (ZX Spectrum)

Van PingPong

Enlighted (4156)

18-04-2021, 10:43

Manuel wrote:

But these games that Marno Bal is playing are not Spanish, right?

Broadly speaking i'm include even some non japanese sw houses. I'm referring mainly to european ones.
I didn't know jai alai, nice.

Van PingPong

Enlighted (4156)

18-04-2021, 10:45

May be the post title should have been "Games from european sw houses mainly spain" where the msx version looks different from a straight ZX spectrum port.

Van tfh

Prophet (3430)

18-04-2021, 11:57

I'd say Boulder Dash. I've spent countless hours on them...