Wanted: Eur MSX1 with Toshiba VDP (eg. Sony HB10/20)

Paragon (2043)

10-02-2009, 16:19

I'm not trading or collecting, this is for a (subjective) good cause: reverse engineering this chip so emulators can add support for it. It won't be collecting dust in my attic. Anyone willing to sell one for a sane price? like, 20 euros + shipping. If power/video connectors are non-standard, I'd need cables too. I don't need a box or manual.

Quick test to confirm it's got the Toshiba T6950:

10 color15,4,1:screen2:vdp(3)=159:vdp(4)=0
20 line(50,30)-(200,50),15,bf: rem if you see only ONE horizontal white bar, it's a Toshiba
30 goto30

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By Jazzy

Champion (472)

10-02-2009, 18:52

Are you the guy who bought my turbo R in Nijmegen?

By hap

Paragon (2043)

10-02-2009, 19:18

Yeah .. Maybe one of your leftover European MSX1s has a Toshiba T6950 VDP: it wasn't just used in Sony HB10/20, you're willing to test? Also, I've read that (some?) Gradiente Expert contain a Toshiba T7937A, so, there's possibly 2 of your MSXes I might be interested in.

shorter version of the test:

screen2:vdp(3)=159:vdp(4)=0:line(33,33)-(99,55),15,bf:?input$(1)

*edit*
A list of your MSX1s that manuel and I tested at Nijmegen that did not have a Toshiba VDP:
- Spectravideo SVI-728
- Sony HB75
- Yamaha YIS 503F
- Yamaha CX5M
- Sanyo PHC-28S
- Sanyo PHC-28L
- Talent DPC-200
- Epcom HB-8000

By Moniz

Champion (401)

10-02-2009, 20:32

Add the Canon v-20, it showed 3 lines

By Mortimer

Rookie (20)

11-02-2009, 23:27

I've just run the test script in my Toshiba HX-20 and it's shows only one line. And, I can confirm that inside it has the 'compatible' toshiba VDP because I've seen it

I think that HX-10 also has the Thoshiba chip, and I've found this Item: eBay

If you need some help with Spanish email me!

Good luck.

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By hap

Paragon (2043)

11-02-2009, 23:56

Yeah, the HX-20 has a T6950, it's a rare machine though. The more common HX-10 has a standard TMS9xxx.

By Mortimer

Rookie (20)

12-02-2009, 00:21

Oh, if I see another HX-20 or HB in your bullet I'll notice you.

Casually I'm working too in an Java TMS Emulator: http://msx.sagaz.es/TMS9918A.002.php
If you need to probe some code in the toshiba or yo have any question email me ;)

By Jazzy

Champion (472)

23-02-2009, 12:41

Hap, I ran the test on the Sony HB-20 and it displayed 3 horizontal bars.

By hap

Paragon (2043)

23-02-2009, 12:55

Ok, thanks for testing it (no need to answer my question about the HB20 on ebay then).
If you find time to test your other MSXes, let me know here.

By Jazzy

Champion (472)

23-02-2009, 13:06

Keep hammering my e-mail with questions and maybe I find the time then.

Just give me 3 or 4 types you want me to check and I will do that today. By the way, you're welcome to visit me and do all the testing you want.

By hap

Paragon (2043)

23-02-2009, 13:41

- Daewoo DPC-200
- Mitshubishi ML-F80
- Goldstar FC-200 (black one)
- Sanyo MPC-100 (the one on eBay)
If you said 6 types, I'd add the JVC and the other Goldstar too.

Some Arab MSXes are known to have a Toshiba VDP too, same for the Gradiente Expert stuff, but I don't think you'll sell those for a small price?

*edit* a 'positive' result for that VDP test is 1 horizontal bar btw. 3 means it's a TMS VDP.